F1 Fantasy Game

:: PART 2:: 

So only the drivers value in position 1-10 will increase, pricing any future purchases out the window, and drivers in position 11-18 would decease. Would that mean a driver constantly in the bottom field their value could drop to $0 by mid season (or do we get paid to take them?) 

 There is something I missed to put in the rules page.
The min price that a driver can have is 10 000 000 and max is 100 000 000.
So if the a driver has 10 000 000 and he is in back positions he will keep his price to 10 000 000.

 Yes, I feel the same way. Came to the same conclusion. I think things might equalize around the 8-12 spots though because those guys may battle it out this season. But you are right, by the later parts of the season, no one will have Mercedes drivers or the next two probably because they will be too expensive or you just won't be playing anymore.  Or you will have to downgrade to enter with a driver, chassis and engine that don't score points. Maybe it would be better if every driver got points each race and there is just more spread, and the cutoff for drivers to lose value is 15 so the bottom bottom or DNFs only lose value.

Why are my winnings not showing up in my budget?  

You don't have any trades since the price changed(last Wednesday).
To earn money you need to sell drivers which price is higher then the price you bought them.

Aquos, Thank you for the feedback.
The main goal of rule changes this year is to make the game more attractive to include more the users into the game.
With this 'private' Mercedes championship you just pick Mercedes items and even you don't log into game you still have chance to win .
Yes, the entry fees maybe is not the perfect solution but its something we can improve to something better.
Please if you have any suggestions and recommendations share with us.

Teams should earn money in the same way as the drivers value is changing. Then we could pay the entry fee without selling elements (if we choose wisely). The main idea must be that managers can improve their teams during the season. The price list shouldn't let to choose the best elements at the start of the season - if you earn some money, you could buy better elements. Now it is opposed - we have to change good elements for worse, to pay the entry fee, because it's the only way to earn some money.

Entry Fees: Can't we win a certain amount of money each round if our drivers do well so that we can afford the entry fee to each round? I don't want to be selling stuff each race and downgrading constantly just to afford the race fee. I hate this idea and it will probably make me lose interest very quickly.

 I definatly agree with this i dont see the point in a game, in which i cant ever improve. Why when i have driver that wins me points am i forced to downgrade. Surely this was thought of before the game started.

 It's a horrible game mechanic.  Im going to have to say farwell for this season.  Hopefully improvements will be made for 2016.   

 JohtajaRinne, not sure what exactly is your question?

It somehow cut half of my message off, or i did mess up something while writing it. 

But never mind, my problem seems to be solved now.

I can't agree with Agros more. With no earnings, you get a great team to start, then you sell off just to keep playing. At the end, we'll all have Manor chassis and drivers.

 i cant pay my entry fee and i cant win any money so i'll have to sell either my engine or chassis and not score any more points. im afraid it comes down to entry fee goes or i go.

 please remove the entry fees, you will end up with no players at the middle of the season. should make the changes obligatory so player wont have the same team for every race. 

 and i can believe that the 2 Sauber drivers are still 10m when they finished in the points, really poor thinking on the rules in this game.  nonsense 

 The driver prices will be updated on Wednesday.
Soon will release a poll to see if all agree in rule changes for this season, since I see users that are managing their teams very well which is the goal of the game.

 In regards to the entry fee I do not agree to it.

 

As each round are completed I don't see my budget been raise to compromise the entry fee. The only way to keep playing is to constantly downgrade my team just to have enough money to pay this entry fee, I don't find this in any way fun.

 

Its now come to the point that I don't have enough entry fee to enter the next grand prix!! There is no way I can upgrade my team as each round finishes.

 

This system needs to rectify as soon as possible to keep people interested to play.

If and when entry fees are removed i dont see any reason to keep playing. When this happens people who have realized this fact (you should invest ur budget to drivers to earn more money, not to just chassis and engine, that will give you points for short period of time, and after that u r broke) about this game, and managed their team so they can get maximum profit are basically out of this game because points lost from 3 first grand prix. Then these "master minds" who have just bought best engine and best chassis that is available get huge advantage against players who have actually used time and thinking to game. 

I agree that entry fees are nonsense, but so is many else element at the moment. If entry fees will be removed whole point system should be changed because everyone would simply just use Mercedes/Ferrari engine/chassis parts and cheapest drivers because that is how u earn most points, if there are no entry fees you can keep doing that rest of the season. 

I think that this season should be played till the end with these rules we are having at this moment. If rules however change you should reset all points and moneys and give everyone same budget with no points and start playing all over again when Spanish GP starts.

And yeah, prices should change immediately after race or game should be frozen till price changes, because at the moment after each GP u just buy driver combination that will get most money when the prizes change and do this same thing after every race.

I also think that the rules should not be changed.
I already sold best engine and chassis so I can pay taxes and got drivers to earn me money.

I this format the game makes you more busy with it and I think prevent the 'fake' teams where in the beginning of the season they have best engine and best chassis and you can not reach team if you made wrong choice for the first race.

 @JohtajaRinne if you buy driver before price changes you can sale it with the updated price only after the next race.
If you sell it before the next race you will do it for the same price you bought it.
But if you already have driver in your team which price will go down you can sell it before price changes and then get it be for less money.
That way you can save money of the price changes.

 Yes i know that but what does it matter? Drivers wont earn that much points, I see that only thing that you want drivers to do is earn money (unless you have Hamilton/Rosberg which case you get some points from there but u are forced to use very "weak" engine and chassis parts so when using those drivers who actually score points, you end up losing much more in car part section than you are winning in drivers points)

For example, I had Nasr in Sepang. after race i could easily calculate that Nasr will lose value by 640 000, at the same time I knew that Verstappen had good weekend and calculated that his value will increase by 900 000. So I bought Verstappen making money 1 540 000 this way when prices changed. Now i had to have Verstappen in my team for next race, but it doesnt matter anything because drivers who are in this price pool (10 000 000 - 14 000 000) are very unlikely to score more than 4 F1FG points per weekend. So in last race (China) Verstappen didnt do that well, but now Nasr had good race so again i calculated that Verstappen will lose value by 590 000, and same time Nasr would have 580 000 value increase, so i sold Verstappen and bought Nasr making 1 170 000 money this way compared to situation where i would have kept Verstappen.  

So at the moment I'm using one solid driver who is earning ~1 000 000 per race weekend and just "flipping" between weaker drivers based on their results. So my team is basically made by just looking result list of last Grand Prix, and it has nothing to do what i think will happen in next race. And same thing happens with these guys who are just buying best possible car parts and cheapest drivers, they just try to keep those car parts as long as possible and slightly downgrade team after each race, not trying to predict happenings of next race.

When rules are changed you should make drivers to earn more points also. And for very good example to this one: In Sepang where Vettel actually won that race player Ummarita (team name Ta Uan F1) had Sebastian in his team. Player Ummarita had combination Vettel and Nasr as drivers, in car parts he had Mercedes engine and Saubers chassis. He got total 53 points in that weekend (without bonus points).
In that same race "best result" was made by player Alborada (team name El Resurgir De Alborada) who had Verstappen and Nasr as drivers and Mercedes engine and chassis. He made 61 points (without bonus points calculated).
So who predicted that race best? Player who had surprise winner in his in team with good engine or player who just bought best engine/chassis and cheapest drivers? I think it was the first one, but even when Vettel won GP, Mercedes engine/chassis combination still made more points.

 Thanks JohtajaRinne,
I see your point and for next season I'm going to change the point scheme so drivers will get much more points than chassis and the engines will bring less points  that the others. The main issue that needs to be solved is to find other way to earn money, not just from the driver trades.

That is a fair point about the engine and chassis points.

 Season coming to an end, so I want once again to express my dissatisfaction and disappointment with this year's rules of the game. If next year the rules will be the same, the giving up of fun, because there is no longer anything to do with the realities of F1. However, I hope that the rules will change and we will again be able to enjoy this manager.

 Yes, as soon as the season finish we will start preparations for the new season.
This of course includes the rule changes.
Again any suggestions are more than welcome.

The basic suggestion is to cancel the entry fee or to add a mechanism that let us earn money for each race. 

Hello,

 As the start of the new season is coming I'm ready with some ideas about the rules changes and I would like to hear your opinion about it.
First of all I would like to say thank you for the posts you wrote in this thread.
They are very helpful and some changes for the new season are based on them.

Here is the changes:

1. Entry fees
        Entry fees will remain in the game but their values will be reduced and the user will be able to pay fees for races in 3 months, not 7 days like it was last season.
        Also will be added an email reminder to inform the user if the entry fees is not paid for the upcoming race.

2. Drivers values
        The changes in driver values will also stay but the change values will be reduced so we will not come up with the situation when by the end of the season driver price is bigger than initial team budget.

3. Earning money
      This is the biggest change for the new season. The idea is every team to receive some money based on the points the team scores in given weekend. The price values will not be calculated for each point but for range of points. For example if the team score more than 20 points it will receive some amount if it score more than 50 other and so on.
The idea is each team to be able to pay entry fees by receiving such bonus money and also to buy more expensive drivers or chassis or engine.

4. Point schema
    The point schema will be changed so drivers has bigger role than engine and chassis.

Please let me know what you think about the changes and of course any suggestions are more than welcome.

F1FG

 " For example if the team score more than 20 points it will receive some amount if it score more than 50 other and so on." I don't understand it :(

 The idea is not receive money for each point you score but to receive money by given range of points.

For example if your team score less than 20 points it will not receive money from the current weekend.
If it score between 20 and 50 points it will receive for example 2 000 000 .
If the team socre between 50 and 70 points it will receive for example 5 000 000 .
If it score more then 70 it will receive for example 8 000 000.

It's hard to say without knowing the details...

 this should solve some of the late season problems from last year.